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  Raising Kids to be Cult Members!!!

  by lisaBObeesa in

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  in another thread, there is a discussion about young people leaving the jws at a rate of something like 88%.

  we see the rules given to the sheep for raising their children and we shake our heads saying, dont they get it?

  what is wrong with the org that it cant see how they are treating the youth?

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  lisaBObeesa,

  This is an excellent thread and deserves to be bumped. Thanks for putting a link to it in my thread.

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  Questions from the Essay "Self-Identity and Growing Up in the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Reopened Mind in

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  the essay "self-identity and growing up in the jehovah's witnesses" by marcela sherwin was an interesting commentary on how being brought up as one of jehovah's witnesses affects one as an adult after they leave the cult.

  only a small sample of ten adult xjws participated in the survey.

  i thought it would be interesting to read the answers all of you would give to the same questions.

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  lisaBObeesa;

  You are right, choices approved by the WT are no choices at all. Everything was already decided for you within very restricted parameters. I know I raised my boys that way. Your parents at least did something for you by letting you be in band. I too find it difficult to make friends. Although not being raised in the cult I have spent my entire adult life in it until just recently. Feel free to PM me. I would welcome it.

  Band on the Run;

  " My father was a bodyguard to Rutherford and Knorr. My uncles also served at Bethel. Their stories were heart wrenching. They ended up unable to fully embrace the society but still eager to conform. It was all they knew." All I can say is, "How sad". Congratulations on making your way out of the ghetto of Watchtowerland. The strength of your authentic personality has taken you far. Please continue sharing with us your valuable insights.

  RADHESYAM;

  My husband's father was much like yours, it was his way (WT way) or the highway. TotallyADD was told one time that if he left the "truth" his dad would disown him. Sounds like you took some of the lemons the cult handed you and made lemonade.

  itscrap&theyknowi!t;

  You are so right. We have all suffered in MANY ways. So much potential has been totally crushed by the Watchtower. Allowing your children to live a life that they choose for themselves is the greatest gift that you can give them.

  Thanks to all for your comments.

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  Update on my daughter, Ali.... the saga continues

  by coffee_black in

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  ali had an appointment with her dr. yesterday.

  he won't let her return to her job, due to the long hours for her position.

  (45 hours minimum) and the physical lifting that her employer would require.

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  coffee_black Ali is truly blessed to have you for a mother.

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  Questions from the Essay "Self-Identity and Growing Up in the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Reopened Mind in

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  the essay "self-identity and growing up in the jehovah's witnesses" by marcela sherwin was an interesting commentary on how being brought up as one of jehovah's witnesses affects one as an adult after they leave the cult.

  only a small sample of ten adult xjws participated in the survey.

  i thought it would be interesting to read the answers all of you would give to the same questions.

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  Star tiger;

  Thank you for your contribution. My husband and sons also suffer with low self esteem as a result of being raised a Witness. TotallyADD laments that he would have really liked to have played football in high school. He would have been good at it. To this day he follows the Tampa Bay Buccaneers even though we haven't lived in the Tampa area for 8 years. Congratulations on going back to school. Hope that works out well for you. I went to 2 years at a local junior college and earned a degree in biology before being baptised into the cult. This has been of no use to me. So please finish out a useful degree.

  Coffee House Girl;

  I hear you saying you only had one choice to regular pioneer as a teenager. One choice is really no choice at all. We talked to our boys about going to Bethel. In hindsight I'm so thankfull that neither one went, especially after reading some of the horror stories of those who experienced life at Bethel. It's interesting that you said you were not in the clique because your dad didn't go to meetings. My husband and boys have said the same thing because they were elder's kids. Other kids were afraid they would get tattled on. LOL I, too, was socially awkward as a child. I think that was a strong reason why I began studying with Witness girls in school. I've had various conditional friends in the congregation over the years. Like you my best friend is my husband TotallyADD. I especially like that we are leaving the WT together. Coffee House Girl you have an authentic good personality which has nothing with being raised in the cult. I enjoy your posts.

  SirNose586;

  You were allowed to be part of a chamber orchestra? Was that in the day when there was still live music at the conventions? My father-in-law was a professional musician before he became a Witness and played bass in the orchestra.

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  Questions from the Essay "Self-Identity and Growing Up in the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Reopened Mind in

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  the essay "self-identity and growing up in the jehovah's witnesses" by marcela sherwin was an interesting commentary on how being brought up as one of jehovah's witnesses affects one as an adult after they leave the cult.

  only a small sample of ten adult xjws participated in the survey.

  i thought it would be interesting to read the answers all of you would give to the same questions.

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  The essay "Self-Identity and Growing Up in the Jehovah's Witnesses" by Marcela Sherwin was an interesting commentary on how being brought up as one of Jehovah's Witnesses affects one as an adult after they leave the cult. Only a small sample of ten adult XJWs participated in the survey. I thought it would be interesting to read the answers all of you would give to the same questions. How about it? Will you participate? The questions I have culled from the article are below.

  Survey Questions for Adults Who Were Raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no Longer Practice

  1. Were you allowed to make choices for yourself when you were a teenager? If so were your choices restricted to those approved by the WT?

  2. As a child did you fit in with the in-group at the Kingdom Hall?

  3. Were you part of a school team, yearbook, multi-cultural club or other extracurricular activities?

  4. Have you struggled with adjusting to the social norms and values of society after departing from the WT in your adult life?

  5. Have you struggled with making friends in your adult life?

  6. Have you attended counseling after departing from the WT?

  7. What effect has your Witness upbringing had on you, positive, negative, or a combination?

  I am a convert myself (converted as a teenager) so appreciate any insight you might share with what it was like growing up in the cult. I've read many of your stories and have difficulty relating to much of it. I raised my children in the WT, thoroughly convinced it was the best way to bring up my boys. My husband, TotallyADD, was raised in the cult by fanatical Witness parents. He has answered the above questions which I will post later.

  Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

  The essay in its entirety can be found at www.freeminds.org. Thanks to Randy for putting up on his site.

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  Men are Adorable!

  by Robdar in

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  this afternoon i had the pleasure of listening to my dad, husband and son discuss timing belts, the teeth they rest on, camshafts, and other car parts that i cant recall at such a late hour.

  they were totally engrossed in the conversation and it was fun listening to them talk.

  the air was thick with testosterone and they were so manly that i just had to smile about it.

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  I have to weigh in on this thread. I have been blessed with a wonderful husband and 2 outstanding sons. My husband TotallyADD is all thumbs when it comes to mechanics but put a screw gun in his hands and he really shines. Three years ago we bought an old log house sight unseen off the internet. To say it was a handyman special would be putting it mildly. Last summer hubby gutted the house and totally redesigned it, rewiring, replumbing, drywalling, painting. He made me a whole new kitchen by reworking the cabinets and putting in a tile countertop. Time ran out last summer to redo the bathroom but that is his project now that we have moved into the house. A couple years ago we bought 2 colorful Mexican sinks from an importer in St. Augustine, FL with the idea of incorporating them into our log house. He has designed the bathroom around the sinks. I am eager to see the finished product.

  Did I say the log house is in PA? My oldest son took off time from work to come to Florida from another state to move us to PA.

  My youngest son is the one I call when I need help with anything computer related. He has gotten me out of many jams.

  While adorable is not the first adjective I think of when I think of my three men, I certainly would call them talented, helpful, considerate, thoughtful, fun to be with, and I am so happy they are a part of my life.

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  Good bye to all

  by TotallyADD in

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  in just a few days reopened mind and me will be taking that big trek up to the north country.

  we have hit very few road blocks in the last months getting ready for our move.

  we will not be able to get high speed internet were we are moving to.

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  Jamie,

  Yes, I still have your number. Will definitely call you when we get to PA.

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  Who Or What Influenced You The Most To Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  any person or situation ?.

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  For me the catalyst was an article in the Gainesville Sun in January 2007 regarding Jehovah's Witnesses and their refusal of blood tranfusions featuring Kerry-Louderback Wood. Up until this time I had been a staunch supporter of the WT's stand on blood. Back in 1982 on the day my second son was born the doctor who was the head of the pediatric intensive care unit came to me to get me to OK a transfusion for my baby. He told me my son would not live the day out unless I consented to let him have blood. Then I was threatened with a court order to force blood. Well, as it turned out, my baby did not receive a blood transfusion and he lived and thrived. But when I read the newspaper article and looked up the website ajwrb.org which was cited in the article, I slowly began to see a different side to the story. From there I followed all the links and researched more topics on the Watchtower. What I found brought into focus all of the little questions I had had over the years as well as opened my eyes to scandals within the organization to which I had been blissfully unaware (UN, Malawi/Mexico, pedophilia, Ray Franz). I'm glad I reopened my mind.

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  Good News to Share...My Wife Said to me...

  by onemore in

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  my wife said to me last night....im done...im not going back to a kh.

  i have to say that the wt did it all for me.

  and the program at this last circuit assembly: ...not part of the world was the final nail in the coffin.

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  To onemore, now there are twomore, and soon to be threemore.

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  Update on my daughter Ali... finally some good news!

  by coffee_black in

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  i've posted several times over the past 6 months about my daughter, ali's severe heart failure due to a virus.

  it has been a roller coaster ride.

  recently her leads from her pacemaker and defibrilator became displaced due to strong coughing due to bronchitis.

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  We are so happy to hear that your daughter Ali has had her surgery and is doing well. Having insurance that covered the expenses and a job that was kept open for her I'm sure has relieved a lot of pressure. She is so blessed to have you for a mother. The next couple months may be a stretch for you both financially but you willl get through it. Sounds like the worst is over.

  Hubby and I have lived most of our married lives of 37 years without health insurance. We have survived despite his knee surgery last year.

  Best wishes for a continued recovery.

  Reopened Mind and TotallyADD